What is
Brian up to now...Putting
in a 2002 XR100 motor in his NSR50!
(July
2008)
I have turned to the dark side and went with a 4 stroke motor in my NSR.
After testing out what I could do with a Kitaco and Athena big bore kits, I
set my sights on a 4 stroke conversion after having a few good battles with
bikes with 4 strokes in them. Starting things off with a 2002 XR100
motor, I quickly started to do the research and calling people I know who
have already done the swap. A lot of help was given by a friend
out in San Diego Ca,
Brian Werner, who just did the conversion last year. I called him and we
talked for what seemed like hours on the phone. I quickly filled up 2
pieces of the yellow legal pad paper with info and parts that were needed
for the conversion. With a lot of valuable information from Brian Werner, I
started to think this shouldn't be too hard. I then sold the 50cc
motor, the exhaust and other parts I didn't need to fund the project and the
fun began!
Brian Werner
sent me the same aluminum that he used and a drawing of the brackets he
made. After a lot of templates of Brian's design, I thought I would
try something different and maybe easier to make. A few plastic templates
later
I designed my own rear motor mounts and fit the XR100 motor in the
frame.
Only thing I had to cut/grind down a bit was
about 1/8" of the bottom rear mount on the frame, this was done so the
mounts would not bend once all the bolts were tight..
UPDATE-- I forgot to loosen
the swingarm bolt, if you buy my kit, the most you will have to do is grind
down a small amount to fit the brackets and motor).
Getting the right
height of the motor and spacing so the front and rear sprockets line up
right was a little bit of a challenge, but once I figured it out things were smooth
sailing from there. Todd Patton of
TK Racing products
was nice enough to provide me with a few scrap front mounts that he makes, I
used them as a template to make my front mounts and added an extra hole for
the front NSR frame bolt. He
helped me out with a few things and I want to thank him as well!
Now that I
got the motor in the NSR frame, I set out to figure what exhaust I was going
to use. I found a few importers that could get some sweet exhausts
from Japan, but after I seen the price tag, I thought I would try something
different. My first thought was to go under the tail like the NSF100.
Then after looking at all the tight bends that were needed, I thought I
would call Brian Werner up once again and take a page out of his book.
I went with the same idea he had with his exhaust. Mount it under the
motor and have a pipe stick out the right side of the motorcycle, MotoGP
style!
After finding a small Pit Bike exhaust can on ebay, my next hurtle was
finding someone to custom bend an exhaust header for me. After a few
calls to some friends that race with me, I found a shop that builds race car
frames. Took the NSR there and it was nothing for him to make.
He made one of the coolest looking exhausts for my NSR. Thanks Shawn!
Okay, so far
the motor is in, exhaust is done, now the next step is to figure out what
big bore kit to get. After a lot of research and going back and forth
with different kits and what would be best for me and the classes I want to
race in, I went with a BBR 120 kit. I'll run a more aggressive race cam then
the BBR's, but I think the kit is nice and will do just fine. A huge thanks to Kent Klawon for showing me
how to rebuild the top end of the motor!
The final
step is getting the motor dialed in right. I'll be using a Keihin 24mm
round slide carb for the initial tests, and if for some reason I can't get
it to work, I'll go with something different. I did make my own intake but
went with a Kitaco intake for a 24mm carb from CHP. You can all and order
one for around $25.00. For the one I made.. I cut a stock intake close to where it bolts to the head, stuck
some conduit in there and JB welded it. That will be the piece that my
rubber heater hose will fit on to. I then waited overnight for the JB
weld to set, and then cut it short enough for a small clamp to go over it.
I then cut some heater hose, attached it to the custom intake and carb and it
was done! Great thing about this, is you can make it as long as you want and
play around with it. But, like I said, I've been using the Kitaco
intake and keep the one I made as a spare.
I did look
over a few things when putting this motor in... nothing too bad but
something you'll want to know if you plan on doing this conversion!
The shifter,
stock throttle cable and chain length were 3 things that need addressed!
With the shifter, you can use your stock NSR shifter, but might need to bend
it a little bit for it to work. Mine was bent from crashing on it, so
I'm not sure how much you really have to bend a good shifter for it to work. When I had the 63cc motor in I used a 1/4
turn throttle with my carb. You can use a 1/4 turn throttle with this
swap, but just take it easy on the throttle since you now have a lot more
torque! Anyway, I stuck the stock throttle back on, but ran into a problem with the carb
plunger not closing all the way. So, I cut off about 1/8" off the
throttle stop inside the throttle casing. That allowed the throttle to close
when it was off. Also, I had to order a new DID 420 chain and cut off
a few links so it would work out. (Update.. I now run a 1/4 turn Kitaco
throttle and love it!)
I think the
XR100 motor in this light frame and the NSR's suspension will do great!
I'll post what problems (if any) I'll run into once I get it on the track. I
also plan on taking the bike to a Dyno and I'll post the HP numbers once
that is done.
More info and updates/pictures to follow!
Thanks to:
Brian Werner, Todd Patton, Shawn McNealy, and Kent Klawon for all the help
on this project! Without your help and support, it wouldn't be where
it is now!
Click on the
pictures to enlarge them
EXHAUST
PICTURES
Making the intake and finished project!
UPDATE 8/18/08
This
is my opinion of the XR100 4 stroke in the NSR50 frame: I LOVE IT!
I wish I would of done this mod a long time ago! It is a lot easier to
ride/race, but with that comes laziness! If you want to start your kid
off on a mini for roadracing, I would stick with the 2 stroke at first.
The 2 stoke will teach you to keep your corner speed up and not rely on the
motors power to get you out of trouble or make up for your mistakes.
But, for someone going from a 2 stroke to a 4 stroke, you'll still keep the
corner speed, and have much more torque and power coming out of the turns
then before. As long as you don't get lazy on the bike, you'll be
pulling in faster lap times after a few laps. The only major problem
I've got to get over is not using my brakes as much. With the 4
stroke, you can just let the motor do most (or all) of the braking for you.
Once you get use to the engine braking, everything will start to get easy on
the track.
The BBR120 kit worked out great for my
first race. My oil temp never got above 190 degrees F, and that is without
an oil cooler! I raced 4 races and took 2nd for one heat, and 1st for
the rest of the day. I was able to keep up with a KTM65 and also a
KLX150. The motors true test will be at BeaveRun Sept 6th when
I'm racing NSR50's with 63cc big bore kits and other 80cc 2 stroke bikes.
Just watch out for next season when I stroke the crank 6mm, add a more
aggressive race cam and maybe a Kitaco Superhead.. That will put my
motor at 138cc's!
I would recommend this motor conversion
for anyone looking for a bit more power/torque with the cool sound of a 4
stroke! Here are a few short videos from when I was trying to figure out the
jetting and gearing for the bike. Keep an eye out for more video of
the bike on the track, in the video section here. Enjoy!
UPDATE 2/28/09
Well, after racing the motor for the 2nd
half of the season with OYL the old XR100 motor did better the I would of
thought! At the last round at CRP, I was able to keep up and pass a few
CRF150R's and teammate Jordan and I did a 2hr Endurance race with my bike.
After racing a full day of sprints, I filled the bike up and off she went
for the 2hr endurance race. This was Jordan's first time riding my
bike ever, but it didn't take him long to get use to the bike and was
starting to turn some fast lap times. Jordan and I did two 30 min
stents on the track and it seemed to do good. Well Jordan and I took
1st place for the endurance race and ended up winning most laps in 2hrs, 126
laps! That's just a little over 100 miles on a .8mile 10 lap kart
track!
So, the 2009 season is approaching fast
and it is time to get the motor the way I want. Well, I wanted to do
the Yosh 125cc kit but thought I would put that money towards my suspension
since I had a few issues with that. So, the only motor mods that I
will do for the 09 season is a new WebCam 68/69 grind, and a lighter
flywheel as well as a larger oil pump. I'll post pic's of everything
as soon as can and report the changes the cam and lighter flywheel do for
the bike.
More updates coming!
UPDATE 4/6/09
I took the bike to the track to shake
things down, she ran good and I now have to get use to the lighter flywheel
and Webcam... I use to have a lot of engine braking, but now the bike just
wants to keep going, so I have to adjust to the new mods, once I come to
grips to the new motor mods, I'm sure I'll enjoy the bike and my lap times
will drop! I also could tell a difference with the front forks, they
felt great and
www.35motorsports.com did a great job with them. I might
have to adjust them a little here and there, but right out of the box, they
feel 100% better then before!
I've put the NSR on a Dyno.. with all
the new mods, I pulled 10.3 HP!! Not too bad
since BBR states a 2hp gain on their site for their 120cc kit (stock
XR100 motor is around 7hp).
Check out the video below!
For updates on this bike.. check
out the Bike Build section.
I've added a Takegawa 124cc stage
3 kit and more!
And Motor mounts for this motor swap
are for sale! Contact me at:
rdracer4@hotmail.com for more info or click on the for sale section on
this website!